If you have never seen the boss.
If your group has never seen the boss.
If you read that the boss is technical.
If you see that you cannot just over power the boss.
If the fight is not a simple tank and spank.
If a large group has not seen the boss pass 40%.
If you wipe 3 times.
The boss is not “hard” you just don’t have the experience. The raid did not know what phase 1, then phase 2, then phase 3 looked like. So do your role. Or get out.
Don’t go on Vent and say things like “This guy is a bitch.”, “This is impossible”, “This is HARD.”. or “We cannot do this.”
Constructive input please.
I have always been in the perspective of “If you can do it. I can do it better.” Or at least succeed at it too. So get out of my raid.
Remember new fights are a challenge. Remember what Pre Mag’s Lair nerf versus post nerf Mag’s Lair. I am thinking that a new group going into Mag’s Lair today would still find it a bit challenging.
Blackwing Lair, Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj, Temple of Ahn'Qiraj, Serpentshrine Cavern, The Eye, Mount Hyjal, Black Temple, Sunwell Plateau … all just might be still challenging the first time through. If you are not up for the challenge… get out of my raid.